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Heavy responsibilities for elder aunt among the Logooli

With Seenge Fonesi. She is the elder grand daughter of Isagi and elder daughter of Amugasya. She is often present in functions involving the family of Amugasya. Pic taken on 18/4/2024. The elder sister soon becomes the elder aunt. It is this “seenge munene” (elder aunt) tag that she is tied to many cultural responsibilities – back home. To her marital family she may appear as any other woman, but she is not so in the eyes of her people. Marriage does not steal her away as it would happen with other daughters of the old man. To her, as days go and the old man and woman of the estate are dependents, she becomes increasingly present.  Her brothers also need her for almost all traditional markings. They are marrying, she needs to welcome the new wife. They are giving birth, she needs to come to midwife or “bless” the new born. They are paying dowry she needs to lead the women delegate. There is a conflict she needs to come for a hearing.  And many others. Traditions does not expect her to

Too stubborn a group member?

Lung'afa: Ben please lala. 
- Umekula ugali?

Erick Author: Too much of a good thing. Kuravezegara zimbihi.

Pat Ngoda: 😃 request him to post here proof of the millions if/when they come. Bank statement (ama wanalipwa aje)

Bensolo Ndanyi: Life isn't about saving money its about investing and getting more money 



Your savings won't last long u use it everyday 🤷🏽‍♂

-‬: 😣😣😣 logic you have done enough adverts here

Bensolo Ndanyi: Am trying to give people hope on life

-‬: You have been advertising to recruit members into your business most of whom  aren't interested as much as what you are saying is true the goal of achieving success can be reached in so many ways and not by joining aim global

Bensolo Ndanyi: As long as u achieve ur success thats my happiness

-‬: So don't post aim global things here we have a goal to achieve but in a different way respect that

-‬: It also goes against the aims of saniaga CBO,I would be glad if you posted here how to make saniaga strong and drew a plan on how the group can achieve its targets

Lung'afa: We shall have Ben sometimes after. We love him. 

@⁨Fanuel Igunza⁩ was to give us more details on S-Sacco. I understand @⁨Kibisu Joash⁩ had started the S-Changa initiative. My contribution will be in tomorrow. 

- Let us foot forward this day and tomorrow.

-‬: Thanks for taking action admin.

Pat Ngoda: Phew, at least we can now breath. I had run out of patience with Aim Global haki

Pat Ngoda: For a moment I started imagining aiM global ina bangi 😳😳😨😨

Lung'afa: Now that haina bangi, mambo ya S-Sacco unaonaje?

Erick Author: 😅😅woishiee. I'd stopped finding him irritating and started finding him very amusing. Alikuwa anafuata Kila mtu inbox ama ni mimi tu?! He's into this aim global nonsense the way people get trapped by religious cults.

Erick Author: Someone close to him should gently counsel him.

Pat Ngoda: Let me act now by sending the 500

Pat Ngoda: Tag me on the paybill right now. Aim global imemaliza space huko juu sioni

Baba Ndanyi: I have been following exchange of critical arguments between Ben Solomon on the one hand and those opposed to his idea of network marketing, the exchange is healthy, I believe there are issues to learn about network marketing; Jumuia is a perfect example of network marketing and its one of the largest supermarkets outside huge buildings; I believe Ben has a point which we cannot ignore; because in the next 5 to 10 years, network marketing will be the way of selling and buying goods without storking them in a store, all you need is a smart phone and a network of sellers, manufacturers, and buyers; let's accommodate these ideas and learn how to empower our people economically, let the exchange here be to enlighten each other not just for the sake of argument; Vihiga County is about to receive lots of funds for youth and women, please I urge our members in the area not to miss the opportunity.

Baba Ndanyi: @⁨Lung'afa⁩ 
As I said before, do not remove members unless you feel the member is insultive, abusive over negative etc but adverts or healthy argument etc, you can only limit the member

Pat Ngoda: Jumia is based on ONLINE marketing not Network (multi-level) marketing  are two completely different marketing contempts.

Pat Ngoda: This Aim Global is equivalent to akina GNLD, Forever Living, Tianshi etc. They deal mainly in health/herbal supplements and you have to recruit members below you to earn business points. Only those at the top of the pyramid benefit by exploiting those below them. Secondly, their products are heftly priced making them out of reach for the common market. Whether they work as indicated or not is yet another point of contempt

Pat Ngoda: Jumia, Ali Baba, Kilimall deal in a wide range of products marketed online (on the internet). You log onto their site, pick what you need and whether you're paying upfront or at your pick up point, they ship your consignment and your story with them ends there

Baba Ndanyi: My argument is out of such discussion we get to learn and become wiser; I am very sure some of those on line marketers started from somewhere small and grew up into what they are; from experience I have learnt not to dismiss anything from face value, I like to see the end of it for me to conclude wisely and by the way if you want to make it to the top comfortably, climb up by experiencing the entire tree!

Baba Ndanyi: The tree that you have to climb is having branches along its stem length some look weak others strong, wisdom requires that you test both the ones that appear weak and also the strong, those thin weak branches may have a stronger grip to the mother stem than the seemingly strong ones. My advice is that never underrate something or somebody who appears weak for whatever reason, one small sentence from such people, out of a whole book they have written can change your life for the better.

Lung'afa: Papa, decorum is not compromised. But at least it is a show both to me and us that we mean seriousness - even in jokes. Unfortunately, this time, it was Ben. 

- With Love
[8/20, 13:41] Baba Ndanyi: Put him back, I will tell him what to post and what not to, I think he has a point to put across
[8/20, 14:03] Pat Ngoda: @Evans Kwanza also does multi level marketing na hatufanyii kelele. In fact I think he is even higher in the hierarchy
[8/20, 14:31] Erick Author: Woi, Nop. Let the seriousness sink in kwanza. People keep telling him to go easy on the ads and he ignores!!! I advised him to start a group and send the link here for any interested parties to join. The majority here are irritated to high hell by all that crap.
[8/20, 15:55] Pat Ngoda: @⁨Lung'afa⁩ , how about we start a different marketing forum and name it Saniaga Market place
[8/20, 15:59] Pat Ngoda: Anything and everything🤣🤣🤣. For those of us who are doing business and need to market. Not just Aim Global (,but of course including him!)
[8/20, 16:03] Neccy Flossy: Lets help him and the Best suggestion is that he opens a separate Whatsapp and maybe call it "Saniaga AIM Global" get the Saniaga contacts in there. Then people would respond as they feel. For us to have "big brother syndrome" aaa..nope. This forum is for above 18. Heed advice ones. Avoid irritation of others and thats what this wall is experiencing
[8/20, 17:21] Baba Ndanyi: @⁨Pat Ngoda⁩ 
When we say we want to empower our people economically, this what we have to encounter, but when we throw stones at the same people we want to empower, we'll end up chasing them away, I want to encourage all those young people who think they can put their ideas to use to come forward and tell their story

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