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Heavy responsibilities for elder aunt among the Logooli

With Seenge Fonesi. She is the elder grand daughter of Isagi and elder daughter of Amugasya. She is often present in functions involving the family of Amugasya. Pic taken on 18/4/2024. The elder sister soon becomes the elder aunt. It is this “seenge munene” (elder aunt) tag that she is tied to many cultural responsibilities – back home. To her marital family she may appear as any other woman, but she is not so in the eyes of her people. Marriage does not steal her away as it would happen with other daughters of the old man. To her, as days go and the old man and woman of the estate are dependents, she becomes increasingly present.  Her brothers also need her for almost all traditional markings. They are marrying, she needs to welcome the new wife. They are giving birth, she needs to come to midwife or “bless” the new born. They are paying dowry she needs to lead the women delegate. There is a conflict she needs to come for a hearing.  And many others. Traditions does not expect her to
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Other things than the Agenda? Where from?

Harold Ndanyi: Argumentum ad Hominem

Victoria Ndanyi: Italian or English? Hapo Niko lost.

Neccy Flossy: Kamnaras do not practise witchcraft, never seen or heard any. Niiva ne rirogo ni avakirima. Night running is just the person has a split personality. He does not harm anyone but runs away not to be recognise. The cow pounder is just a homosexual, ahambiza ku avandi mba. These are individual traits in a human being and does not mean every one in the clan are similar

Baba Ndanyi: Do we really need this kind of rubbish on this forum? Even if it's true or false for that matter, do we have to strip people naked here? No, we have a specific agenda for this forum, inbox individuals who can arbitrate the quarrels among us, but away from this forum

Lung'afa: Agenda is SACCO. Once you pay you can table AOB's of Alenga et al. 

- We get focussed here.

Neccy Flossy: It is a learning curve. It is in the community, address issues, not bury in the sand. Two women were recently killed in Izava subcon bcoz they were dubbed as witches. Today nobody was taken to court. No ligutu or chief raised a finger. So all is well? Who ks a witch, how do they look like? Peolle havr been killed for nothing bu fellow women, and all goes mum countrywide.

Erick Author: It's a matter of general concern. Who should be inboxed to arbitrate anyway?! Let's not get too uppity and all that. Interested people will still pay when they will.

Lung'afa: Taking a ride in the mean time?

Harold Ndanyi: Sure. Saniaga Socialization is main Agenda. Investments are subsidiaries or subordinate. Over stressing a point.

Lung'afa: Birds of a feather. Progressive socialisation has a functioning Agenda. Not promises.  Not 'we will do.'

Harold Ndanyi: Sacco si lazima.

Baba Ndanyi: We are not ready for a forum of unauthenticated family quarrels, we must organize our way of communicating with each other, I insist we inbox personal or family matters, ovorogi, etc, etc are not matters for this for!!

Lung'afa: I think we should meet again in five years. I doubt if we need a quorum to strike you out. Come back ready to pursue goals. Not just talk

Erick Author: I understand people of your generation probably have trouble understanding stuff like this mzee. It's just a screen shot of a discussion on another forum touching on a member of this forum.

Lung'afa: If you have nothing to lose nothing is nearer than the EXIT button. Good luck!

Baba Ndanyi: If we cannot drive away retrogressive traditions and beliefs, we will remain backward, look at what is ahead, NOT what is behind us; I am old enough to know there exists or existed witchcraft etc, etc but I wouldn't talk about them because I was just told like the rest of us, those are sensitive topics, like myths, nobody has knowledge of their beginning or their end!!

Harold Ndanyi: @⁨Baba Ndanyi⁩
I am requesting for your guidance here. The founders of this noble group. I think there are other things than the Sacco. My thoughts are that there can be a Sacco group which interested fellows can be added there. As it stands it seems this group is owned by Sacco cartel. I need your guidance and clarification. The founders of this noble group. There are so many issues of importance where the Sacco is one. I think there needs to be a Sacco group where interested people contribute and are added while the rest remain to benefit and socialize in the main group. As it stands it's like its a Sacco cartel, Forceful contribution. Why should we be forced to contribute or face threats of removal. Something fishy. Self centered.

Lumadi Jenyeka: Wealth creation comes first, entertainment and pointless banter is for children.

Lung'afa: 😊😊. 

May people be allowed to talk. 

Then we shall see where to put them.

Harold Ndanyi: Saniaga is a clan. We shall remain clans men and clans women. Step by step we ascribe to its objectives but not with threats.

Baba Ndanyi: @⁨Harold Ndanyi⁩ 
Yes Harold, I understand your fears and would like to assure you that there are no cartels here, we are just trying to jump huddles to beat a time line; we had an agenda of economic empowerment of our people and we thought a Sacco would propelled us faster, it is the reason why we are arguing as many of you as possible to join, may be some of us may not be having that gift of the garb or the language of convincing politely, just try to be tolerant.

Lung'afa: It is a little awkward to be branded...😊😊. It is like an insult. That rarely gets forgotten. 

- Harold and company, friendly fire dismembers sometimes. And if you do not intend to agree to Group's Agenda, you will be REMOVED.

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