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The struggle with many a rigid Logooli cultural practices

  The Logooli community is one of the deeply cultured societies – with near everything supposed to have been done as per custom – to allow another custom to follow. One example is that for a mature man (with a child or more) to be buried, there must be a house structure at home. Another is that a boy must be circumcised and nursed in father land. If maternal family decides to, the boy will have a hard time reconnecting with father people - a dent on his masculinity. There were two children who got burnt to death in a house in Nairobi. The single mother had left for night work. Elders were told that one of the children was Logooli. The other, the woman had sired with someone else. The Logooli family wanted to burry their little one and long discussed the do’s and don’ts. Of a man who died childless and the grave was placed as if he had died as a man with children. It should have been dug on the sides, the grave. A real thorn should have been thrust in his buttocks, his name go...
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Hold on, it is a pitiful Ivane.

-: Vwakiira mwosi
@⁨Lung'afa⁩  do you have names n contacts of the bereaved families? Pls forward them.to me by kesho i still have ivaane from two members, n wish to distribute it to the concerned families by 17th.

-: Inzi ndoraa utaa kugumira mang'ondo yago ma nikwakavugiririzana na mang'ana ga ivane kurahananga korondekana shia nekove komoromi. Ni mang'ondo make ga oveye nago na nizisoni kugagavuranyia.
- Sande

-: I don't know how much you've collected but I agree with the secretary's sentiments

-: I have 1,030/- from two members

-: Each contributed 500/- n 530/-

-: This is sad for abig family like this. My opinion.

-: Let's hold onto it. Ni kidogo. We need to discuss my welfare proposal and get a way forward. Secondly I think we should get more members paying for membership. If I am not wrong the secretary talked of only 9 paid up members. We should encourage more to pay for membership then based on those figures we can make proposals.

-: On the welfare side we should be acting  with speed putting in mind that all welfare matters have time limit.

-: Metrine, hold on to the cash, I suggest. It is not that we have not contributed well but because we do not yet have a sustainable structure makes us lame. What if five or so of us were bereaved consecutively? It would be unwise to contribute according to such a need. And who said we need also to contribute for funerals? The welfare team should strongly lay up a philosophy of reasons why. That is just part of the thinking with hope that we shall get a nice way to handle the need.
- Thanks

-: In as much as we need to move with speed in welfare matters, without a good number of members we may not archieve our goals. 18 paid up members, bado tuko chini we need to double that figure and more so I propose sensitization of the members in this group to pay up even as we urge them to add more members to the group

-: If all the 163 members of this group sign up... we'd be in business

-: Second view on Ivane

I am so much against organised Ivane. So much. And I reason that it is the wrong foot to engage people when in crisis. If a person is bereaved let individual members act according to their wish. Just inform. Then there are those who will go a step higher to touch the families.

- So that the group's purpose isn't rechannelled.

-: We keep talking about this

-Metrine Livole: Hello everyone, today being the last day to receive ivaane as I had announced, one more member has added 527/- making it1,557/-. Waiting for the way forward

-: Hold it first, let the bereaved know we are doing something, better late than never, we are not late please, meanwhile let members continue contributing.

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