17/09/2017, 7:19 am - Messages to this group are now secured with end-to-end encryption. Tap for more info. 27/09/2017, 9:09 am - Eddy Ludodo added +254 704 053820 27/09/2017, 8:11 am - Ndanyi Saniaga: I like the advice by Ben Solomon, that if you want to go far go as a group and if you want to fast go alone, there is a lot of wisdom in that saying!🙂 Now that we've cooled down, back to my point; registration of members is a must, Metrine should organize to issue receipts and/or membership cards; T-shirts are for identity; and for those who can go an extra mile, give your 1k for progress. We have also programmed to meet at Sosa for a get in together/AGM towards the end of the year. Try to be part of these events. Muhonge vulahi mu Mwami. 27/09/2017, 8:28 am - Kibisu Joash: How many have registered with the group mr patty 27/09/2017, 8:57 am - Evans mwifa saniaga: ✋🏾 27/09/2017, 9:16 am - Lung'afa Igunza: 19 have registered. Govedi finally sold his hen. 😃😃 @254722873456. Shall he be crowned the whip? Hehe 27/09/2017, 9:29 am - Naviava John: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 9:29 am - Naviava John: Haha avasaniaga murambunanya izimbaru!engoko iiziyi kumbura Govedi yiihandikizi 27/09/2017, 9:54 am - Govedi Muzami: 😜👍🏿 27/09/2017, 9:55 am - Govedi Muzami: Vasaniaga varura paa😁 27/09/2017, 9:59 am - Govedi Muzami: I'm really looking forward for the Dec get together ahango hitu Sosa Cottages where will drink and dine together and agree to disagree👌🏿👍🏿 27/09/2017, 10:07 am - Kibisu Joash: Looking forward to that day 27/09/2017, 10:08 am - +254 727 060737: Which date chairman? 27/09/2017, 10:11 am - Ndanyi Saniaga: Still undecided 27/09/2017, 10:13 am - +254 727 060737: But may be DECEMBER, the last week,for brainstorming? At least majority will be around? 27/09/2017, 10:17 am - Govedi Muzami: Chairman we need to have a date set early. I have floated some ideas to Lungafa which I am sure will be collated with others to give us a Plan of Action to guide 2018 and yonder. Most importantly the element of participation as pegged on our constitution. 27/09/2017, 10:35 am - Kibisu Joash: Avandu yava vamanyi ul'logoli mba. 27/09/2017, 10:38 am - Naviava John: Vavoraanga umusaniaga wagerigari siaaveezaa neemoni ndara kari hakuzu.what is the deeper meaning vandu viitu? 27/09/2017, 10:44 am - Metrine Saniaga: Noted. Let's brainstorm n come up with the best option, laminated cards or the ATM form of cards? 27/09/2017, 10:46 am - Kibisu Joash: ATM form cards think are the best 27/09/2017, 10:53 am - Bensolo Ndanyi: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 10:53 am - Bensolo Ndanyi: For more about it contact me 27/09/2017, 11:03 am - Metrine Saniaga: Sawasawa 27/09/2017, 11:16 am - +254 727 060737: Vanga vwaha? 27/09/2017, 11:26 am - Kibisu Joash: Avahandikanji mugorova murusungu 27/09/2017, 11:27 am - Selma Nolega: 🙋🏽🙈 27/09/2017, 11:43 am - +254 727 060737: Kurumanyi.Unyarakomonya mba 27/09/2017, 11:53 am - Kibisu Joash: Timu saniaga ambao wanaenda gemu ya ingwe tukutane KASARANI 27/09/2017, 11:53 am - +254 726 305109: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 11:56 am - Kibisu Joash: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 12:00 pm - Kibisu Joash: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 12:35 pm - +254 729 091938: What the hell is this group for are they just well organised to market T-shirts and request registration money but doesn't have the Agendas of the group? - -I actually don't understand this group main purpose- -Even no proper Introductions of the entire staff?,Kindly better person to explain it here detailed otherwise some of us will pull of- -Good idea but need proper explanation and definitions 27/09/2017, 12:36 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: First question hope u are home 27/09/2017, 12:38 pm - Martin Kidiavai: ☝..boss moto sana.. 27/09/2017, 12:40 pm - +254 729 091938: Let us also learn to discuss things that are sensible and mature 27/09/2017, 12:40 pm - Kibisu Joash: Boss my aim Was trying to identify myself so that when l meet one of the saniaga we chart and get to know one another. Sorry for inconvinience caused. I pull it down sorry. 27/09/2017, 12:40 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: 😒 27/09/2017, 12:42 pm - +254 727 060737: Pls,don't say hell.They have good intention but they need input of leadership training on how it is done 27/09/2017, 12:43 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: Second question do u want us to grow or u want to grow? 27/09/2017, 12:44 pm - Karani Victor: I think the agendas have been being explained here time to time. Maybe you are new or you haven't read all posts here. For me am satisfied by what I see. Just cool you will know more🤝 27/09/2017, 12:46 pm - Martin Kidiavai: Saniagas are profiled to be tough and aggressive but let us not appear/sound provocative and certain quarters will feel looked down upon.....We exercise patience and mantain decorum 27/09/2017, 12:48 pm - Karani Victor: 👊 27/09/2017, 12:49 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: Exactly my point there 27/09/2017, 12:50 pm - Martha Ndanyi: The Tishos are very expensive reduce the price aaaaaaiiiii 27/09/2017, 12:51 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: It's OK actually prices of printed T-shirts are 1500 and over 27/09/2017, 12:53 pm - Martha Ndanyi: Noooo ibuy printed t shirts bana mm will send soo tanno nipewe 27/09/2017, 12:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: depending on the quality 27/09/2017, 12:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: 😒 27/09/2017, 12:53 pm - Martha Ndanyi: 😂😂😂😂🤙 27/09/2017, 12:56 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Tom, I privately texted you yesterday. Till now you haven't responded. Yet you have a bullet in the air. Bro, go slow. No one is paid to explain anything to anyone! As one of us everyone has to speak and suggest views in a manner to show personal commitment and love for the family. - Reply my text please 27/09/2017, 1:00 pm - Metrine Saniaga: Well for those of us who joined the group kitambo we started by tracing our roots where we came from our identity n so called relatives ie avasaniaga vaveye ivunandi, vhu kumadzi etc Then we had the pleasure to introduce ourselves to the 10th generation😉 Then we stated our mission,vision,agenda na ndio hapo mang'ana Gi zisendi gaturira, officials were selected n asked to affirm their willingness, they did! From here to those who joined later could pls ask for clarification of anything without bombarding the wall with feelings🤦🏽♀ pls It is also allowed to add more ' mature' leaders or to offer mentorship aside... Nyanzi nduguduze amang'ana yaga gosi mu llogooli Ku Kuvhe voosi on the same page but it will take me a novel. 27/09/2017, 1:01 pm - Karani Victor: 👊 27/09/2017, 1:09 pm - Govedi Muzami: 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿this is harsh! 27/09/2017, 1:09 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: We are indeed having a T-shirt day. 👌🏿😃🌝 Let us keep talking. -Through it we learn. 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi changed from +254 798 854323 to +254 772 361779 27/09/2017, 1:23 pm - Govedi Muzami: Kindly go to the blog brother. It is not fair to water down a groups effort. Kindly ask before blowing it up the wall. It really discourages the effort the likes of the Chairman and the interim crew. Remember these people are volunteering their time and to some extent resources. Let's use a kind and civil language when addressing issues here. We people (saniagas) from all walks of life. Personally if I felt the group is not addressing my agenda, I would leave without threatening to do so. We are here because we want to consolidate our efforts towards a better tomorrow. Excuse me for the rant🙏🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿 27/09/2017, 1:24 pm - Govedi Muzami: .....and if you leave🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿, we bring you back😜 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - +254 772 361779 changed to +254 798 854323 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi changed from +254 798 854323 to +254 772 361779 27/09/2017, 1:33 pm - +254 711 379383: 👏👏👏 27/09/2017, 1:34 pm - Eddy Ludodo: 🤣🤣 PS 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - +254 772 361779 changed to +254 798 854323 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi changed from +254 798 854323 to +254 772 361779 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - +254 772 361779 changed to +254 798 854323 27/09/2017, 1:53 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi changed from +254 798 854323 to +254 772 361779 27/09/2017, 1:54 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: This true. 27/09/2017, 2:06 pm - +254 772 361779 changed to +254 798 854323 27/09/2017, 1:56 pm - Selma Nolega: OK so help me understand, 1.I have gone to saniaga.blogspot.com...how do I find the objectives of the group or the clear descriptions of what is intended? There is a lot of stuff going back to 2014 I think but I have a challenge accessing the relevant info...I won't manage to read everything. Since there will continue to be new members can there be a summary introduction for all new joiners? 2. Objective #1.1 on the constitution is to sustain a sense of belonging among members...how will this be done?is there a meeting?...it is hard for me to feel I belong/contribute when I barely know people in the group or its objectives. 3.Objective #1.3 cooperate n assist projects, undertake capital investment programs that will assist better lives of all. So when we are being asked to contribute 500for membership and 1000 for investment,what investment is it...shouldnt it be we have the business plan in place first,costs/risks/benefits and then call for funding? And how will I benefit from my 1000? Coz for me I would want to be a member just for belonging not investment since it seems there is no clarity on what investment is to be done... 3. Mambo ya pesa ni ngumu...where r the checks n balances regarding the funds? How come the account isn't open if there are officials already? Statements? 4. I had asked what happened to the previous office and what mistakes led to the decline of the group previously,before this new boost of energy? 5.on communicating in maragoli,for a person who cannot understand it, saying that all people to use it to communicate will just make things harder...I may be the only one who doesn't understand and if so let me know so I can perhaps consider my options. 6. Had it been communicated and agreed that discussions in this watsapp group forum are to be copy/pasted on the net? I need clarity on this as well. Thanks 27/09/2017, 2:12 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: 🤔. May the gods descend. It is getting hotter. In my small way I will try to answer. And anyone who can answer, it will be good to add. 27/09/2017, 2:14 pm - Selma Nolega: Nothing hot here,just questions from a person who wants to understand 😁...thanks 27/09/2017, 2:19 pm - +254 726 305109: <Media omitted> 27/09/2017, 2:19 pm - Kibisu Joash: This are the REAL issues. Factual and debatable 27/09/2017, 2:33 pm - +254 733 918100: Selma you are not the only one, I also don't understand maragoli so alot of information is lost on me 27/09/2017, 2:36 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: Don't worry I was like u five years ago 27/09/2017, 2:37 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: With time when u get to converse with this guy and read the blog and dad's book u will know with in no time 27/09/2017, 2:38 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: It seems like its only about 4-5pple who know what's happening and everyone else seems lost in the woods. Their attempts to try get some little info are always met with harsh and guarded sentiments from some of the 4-5pple. We need a sober, tolerant person to just handle communication. All of us are respectable people. 27/09/2017, 2:39 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: The chairman does well and Metrine. 27/09/2017, 2:39 pm - Ndanyi Saniaga: Relax guys, the good thing is you want to know, that's the starting point, Patty, the ball is in your court!!🤓🤓 27/09/2017, 2:39 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: Chairman, I don't think Patty is better placed to handle. 27/09/2017, 2:40 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: He is relax 27/09/2017, 2:41 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: I know what I'm putting across 27/09/2017, 2:43 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: Great people are not learned look at someone like Ben Carson he is a good example 27/09/2017, 2:44 pm - Selma Nolega: Huh? 27/09/2017, 2:45 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: You seem to have a personal agenda. This is diverting issues. 27/09/2017, 2:45 pm - +254 733 918100: 1. Most of the information on membership and the Constitution has been explained by Patty. 2. The matter concerning investment is what I don't understand very well, as Selma has explained. 3. Also maybe wherever a new member joins some of this information can be put across 4. And if you are adding a member, you could also explain to them what is going on. 27/09/2017, 2:45 pm - Ndanyi Saniaga: Give him time , am meeting him on Friday, will instruct him on how to pass the info 27/09/2017, 2:46 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: 👍👍 27/09/2017, 2:46 pm - Selma Nolega: Great...thanks chairman 27/09/2017, 2:50 pm - +254 733 918100: Cool 27/09/2017, 2:51 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: First, objectives, mission and vision are with the constitution. Not at the blog. The blog has been my research tool since 2014. And it is now a point to archive what will be later useful. It may therefore not have all info on one page but in several pages separated by time. 2. Unless you do not understand or you've double understood what sustaining sense of belonging is. -If you can't contribute because we have not had a collective meeting, the constitution provides that our first AGM will happen at end year. If you will wait till then for you to register, well and good. But how would you have an AGM to what you haven't officialised? - It is just time before you knew all of us. It would not be different from now. In fact most of the active people here are introverts when you meet them. Me one. 3. An investment is what we shall settle upon once some amount of money has been gathered. One of the things that AGM may highlight would be business plans, future doings. It would be good if by then some money would be in and members would have known how they are in resource mobilisation and such. - Not willing to contribute for investments means you are not for saniaga spirit of love and cooperation. - Who but you and us need to brainstorm on investments? No one has yet channelled the way forward for the group. Take the opportunity to turn the questions into suggestions. 3. (you repeated 3). The bank account hasn't yet been opened. As the certificate is received we have it as our next item. That does not mean any excuse of sending money should be nourished. Our treasure, by the trust we need to have, can receive and disburse funds in a manner that is open. 4. About the previous office, I hold no remembrance. I understand that in 80's, when the government disbanded ethnic unifications, it could have lead to it. A historian would guess other issues like lack of motivation, individual disagreements... etc. I leave this to those who can light it. 5. We encourage people to communicate in mother tongue. It is one of the heritage factors that have pulled us here together. If one finds it difficult, it should rather be a challenge to learn than a reason to feel out. 6. About having these discussions posted to the blog is as important as the future beneficiaries would study. The archives would show how we moved from point to point. We would, if we take the right path, come to appreciate it. Shame is in failing, emptiness and whining for none would want that 'preserved'. Yet it is part and parcel of the present. However, if one does not wish to be named, the Character can be Anonymous. Haha. Fifty years from now, to have acted Anonymous, would be the greatest shame to the then generation. Having tried to explain, I may have not exhausted or been on point. That would call for more discussions which are welcomed. Thank you too. 27/09/2017, 2:58 pm - Ndanyi Madete: Try ignorance. Why do we go to school? To pass time or just because our age bracket are in a certain class? This is Kenya my fren! 27/09/2017, 3:00 pm - Eddy Ludodo: How many Ndanyi's do we have in here? 27/09/2017, 3:03 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Victoria, kukiri kukarana emondo! (we have not shared a gizard). And sisters need not to look brothers in the eye. Even if the brother is junior. #important. I would want to meet you soonest! 27/09/2017, 3:05 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: 😊😊😜 27/09/2017, 3:05 pm - Govedi Muzami: Some of us might not be able to write fluent Maragoli but surely we can't claim not know it at all😳.....Let's be proud to take the opportunity to learn. 27/09/2017, 3:07 pm - Victoria Ndanyi: 😆😆school fees utalipa 😝😝 27/09/2017, 3:07 pm - Govedi Muzami: If you think education is expensive🤔? 27/09/2017, 3:09 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: being kenya you can't follow your ability 27/09/2017, 3:09 pm - Martin Kidiavai: I would appreciate we steer off PROFILING of individuals in the many aspects of life... 27/09/2017, 3:09 pm - Govedi Muzami: 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 27/09/2017, 3:09 pm - Selma Nolega: The lack of knowledge may not be by choice... 27/09/2017, 3:09 pm - Selma Nolega: Thank you...I totally agree 27/09/2017, 3:10 pm - Govedi Muzami: Kind of disagree with you there Nolega😉 27/09/2017, 3:12 pm - Linda Amendi: Gdafternoon sanigas...hope site tu buheri wa afya...I've been following keenly though very new to the group...kindly, I seek clarification on the 1k.is it to be contributed once or monthly,half yearly ama vipi 27/09/2017, 3:13 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Selma, I would love to hear feedback. Sometimes the challenge is that once questions are answered, people take to brooding. It would be my wish that next time such a view comes up, you take the mantle. - We need to own this. 27/09/2017, 3:15 pm - Martin Kidiavai: We have an array of issues to discuss and when think you will tear apart our brothers and sister we may be extremely lethal. I will stand for them and would appreciate displinary action to be executed. It is unacceptable 27/09/2017, 3:15 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Till our first AGM thereafter we may see how best. May the chairperson respond to it. 27/09/2017, 3:16 pm - Selma Nolega: Chairman said he is to meet with you on Friday....so that is why I have not yet responded to your feedback...I have read through your response though and will revert after your meeting with the chair 27/09/2017, 3:20 pm - Selma Nolega: It is ok to disagree...now we have a point to discuss... Tukikutana😁 27/09/2017, 3:21 pm - +254 710 252234: Watu hawajilipa registration wanaandika wapi comments, I wish to air my views 27/09/2017, 3:44 pm - Kibisu Joash: Hapa tu!!! 27/09/2017, 3:50 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Wanapiga tu kelele hapa. wanauliza objectives. Please air your views. 😂😂😂😂 27/09/2017, 3:52 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Selma, that if we meet the reply would be different? Joke, jokes and more of it. What if you replied to inform the meeting even better? Vasaniaga! 27/09/2017, 3:51 pm - Selma Nolega: Really? Was this comment necessary 27/09/2017, 3:52 pm - Selma Nolega: Kuuliza ni makosa...kupiga kelele...wow... 27/09/2017, 3:58 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Don mind. Ni ucheshi tu. It was the question that I found sarcastic. 🙈 27/09/2017, 3:53 pm - Selma Nolega: Isorait my fren 27/09/2017, 3:53 pm - +254 722 425131: Mr. Lungafa, mind your language plse. 27/09/2017, 3:57 pm - Selma Nolega: If nothing else...please accord me as much respect as I have so far accorded you boss... 27/09/2017, 3:59 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: You have it. Much of it. 27/09/2017, 4:00 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Fine, I take the complement. 27/09/2017, 4:57 pm - +254 710 252234: Mimi najua sijalipa na sizushi, mmesema objective ni project na kujuana ama hii ni kitu moja 27/09/2017, 4:58 pm - +254 710 252234: T-shirt nizisiringi zyanga mbuguri yange ngunzi nayo 27/09/2017, 5:07 pm - Ndanyi Saniaga: I can see we are almost a crowd, but let's be organized, talk and express yourselves freely, but remember you are talking to your brothers, sisters, cousins, parents, aunties, uncles, grandparents, close relations, so whatever you say, give due respect, it's a blessing and doesn't cost you anything. 27/09/2017, 5:37 pm - Metrine Saniaga: Erefu indara, vol'la Mr kibisu,the color/type of T-shirt, logo you'd love 27/09/2017, 5:37 pm - +254 727 060737: We go to school to expand our thinking capacity. Any gifted person makes it easier in his area of profession,to serve people better 27/09/2017, 6:27 pm - Ndanyi Madete left 27/09/2017, 6:35 pm - Lumadi Jenyeka: Mireembe mwosi? Vanaanga Lumadi wi Jenyeka.Akakaana ki zisoni kutura iMuhanda,South Maragoli. Mwisukuru wa mtiga Ogwero Jenyeka.Rwivuru rwiitu ni rwi iChango navuza vaguuga vahamira iMuhanda. Mu kiduma yimu mbemu ni vakoza nindi vasenge vange. I joined the group for the social aspect of it first,nivurahi vandu kumanyana.We are all 'serious' with our careers and whatnot but it does not hurt to assemble under a tree with your people mkubii zimbaka. After I joined the group we did zimbaka for a bit then of course being Saniagas proper the idea to solidify the group by having members register came up. We all emailed Lung'afa our ID copies and he and Metrine volunteered to go get us registered.I believe Saniaga CBO is fully registered under law. Next came the issue of registration fee,which I believe is necessary for commitment purposes. Then the 1k for investment and the tisho part. I have not paid yet but intend to do so. Perhaps what new members want to know is:- 1.What doea the registration fee do?Sit in the account?Cater for admin costs?Who is accountable for how the money will be used? 2.The T-shirts-is it part of the group?As in if I buy the t-shirt,what ammount if the mark up goes back to Saniaga group?If it is just a venture to promote a saniaga businessperson can that be made clear as well? 3.The 1k for investment,what is it going to be doing btwn now and the AGM when we meet?Sitting in the bank? Lastly,is paying of all the funds an ongoing process or there is a deadline? Personally I would like to request to do all the payments on the actual AGM day if there is no urgent use for the money. Once everyone meets it is easier to do financial commitments.Let us brainstorm on ideas for investment in the meantime. Otherwise this is a very good initiative. I am an Accountant currently working in Mumias and would not mind meeting new friends from around. Mgasizwii. 27/09/2017, 6:37 pm - +254 720 688467 left 27/09/2017, 6:38 pm - Lumadi Jenyeka: A good thing would also for people to do a quick orientation of their friends before adding them here.Normally when one joins a group you cannot see previous discussions. 27/09/2017, 6:39 pm - Metrine Saniaga: Girigarii, I second 27/09/2017, 6:52 pm - +254 727 060737: 👍👍👍,that what introduction is and not ambushing people 27/09/2017, 7:00 pm - Fanuel Saniaga: Mkana witu kumbe uveye ha mumias yaha?mbeyage kakamega....umbitira ku nuziza yengo....sande mno...govoraa yaga nigirigari.... 27/09/2017, 7:19 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Let us keep discussing and raising the issues. Equally, let us show commitment. Cause it is easier to say than to do. It will dawn on us later that we spent too much talking, arguing, mistrusting and achieved little. That shouldn't be. When a disagreement is in a family, people do not leave. Where to? Is there another home? You will remain a saniaga. Stay and beat the path together. I am sorry to say that some of us may have rediscovered they are 'saniaga' the moment they were added having little childhood knowledge of culture and such. My prayer is that we develop the interest that it surpuses the projects and initiatives we may undertake. Importantly we are on track just that we slightly disagree. Personally I shall still pursue courses that not only put us together but foster our heritage. It is not necessary they be money related- for it seems we conflict there. May we keep talking, shouldn't we? 27/09/2017, 8:18 pm - Fanuel Saniaga: This forum/family should be built on three pillars 1.social 2.economic 3.political. We want to be a force to reckon with. A family that will motivate,nurture and develop us. We should not be selfish because one may think the other will benefit. Lets start this thing and make it work for our own benefit. 27/09/2017, 8:23 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: There is a saying that say *the more excuses you make the less money you earn 27/09/2017, 8:23 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: There is a saying that say *the more excuses you make the less money you make* 27/09/2017, 8:30 pm - Neccy Flossy: Saniaga is a doubting Tomas. Mpaka ahambe mutsimbara (not la). Kutula mgorova... kwenya kuhambe mtsimbara 27/09/2017, 8:35 pm - Lumadi Jenyeka: Good thoughts bro Lung'afa. My opinion would be we do not have to invent the wheel esp matters investments.Let people meet,register formally. We could start with a venture as simple as table-banking and we could graduate to other things with time. Once we gain momentum hata saniaga biz people can vend their goods/services during meet-ups. That would be perfect timing to sell branded saniaga merchandise like tee's too. 27/09/2017, 8:48 pm - Govedi Muzami: Good one bro👍🏿. That's why we are brainstorming. Let's own the process and every one is equal here. Let's not sit on the sides then throw spanners in the works when we get to the forming process. 27/09/2017, 9:00 pm - Mudengani Kisia: Ati Ben Carson not learned. Did I hear you right! Meaning? 27/09/2017, 9:26 pm - +254 704 053820 added +254 701 094076 27/09/2017, 9:26 pm - +254 704 053820 added +254 724 040016 27/09/2017, 9:16 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: yes u did hear me right he never used to be a good performer in school 27/09/2017, 9:16 pm - Bensolo Ndanyi: You should read his story 27/09/2017, 9:17 pm - Mudengani Kisia: Haha, we once said that it is difficult to convince musaniaga on what they have already believed to be true or false. 27/09/2017, 9:23 pm - Mudengani Kisia: That was in his elementary grades, he became a performer in his senior grades. Which is a normal thing in many instances. He at a point said that when he got to secondary, he became too intelligent that his fellow students thought him obnoxious. Get it? 27/09/2017, 9:29 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: @254723436460 , have you finally been baptised Vihigian? R and not L. 🤓 27/09/2017, 9:36 pm - Govedi Muzami added Ndanyi Madete 27/09/2017, 9:42 pm - Govedi Muzami: As good parents Kisia let's not float those kind of examples to our kiddos🤣🤣🤣🤣 27/09/2017, 9:43 pm - Govedi Muzami: They will misinterpret them😳 27/09/2017, 9:51 pm - Mudengani Kisia: I get it, they need be serious from the word go. 27/09/2017, 9:54 pm - Neccy Flossy: Lungafa... I use both my 'elos' and 'aras' properly as it should and am ver careful at using. We have both consonants in the language. I came (born) from properly L'logooli speakers on both sides L'logooli Ulwange no lunifu. Am very frustrated when I see someone writing Rora orororo rurara rura 😳ni lutaveye... Lolo olololo lulala lula lololi lulu na malulu. Please dont use those 'aras' without a thot first. It make Lulogooli lufana runyarara! We dont want fake language becoz thats how you want it. Can we stop that please. Otherwise there is no purpose saying rurogori for those trying hard to write and speak it. If in leadership, then know someone is copying but copying wrong things 27/09/2017, 10:19 pm - Kibisu Joash: Neccy mbuli ku kindu chosi mba. Ndakufulota. 27/09/2017, 10:23 pm - Govedi Muzami: Kari inze😁 27/09/2017, 10:23 pm - Neccy Flossy: Sorry.. (halu)..Lola Olololo Lulala Lula Ulululu Lulumi Lulu na Malulu ahalulu 27/09/2017, 10:26 pm - Kibisu Joash: Tongue twister ama nini. Hebu ni tafsirie kwa english ama kiswahili 27/09/2017, 10:33 pm - Neccy Flossy: As a pure Maragoli umwana Murogooli wa Andimi, you were (are) Must know those words. We were taught to say those words ... every child that is. 27/09/2017, 10:35 pm - Kibisu Joash: Unfortunately kitale witu lwari uluswahili 27/09/2017, 10:37 pm - +254 724 040016: MMbendi ? 27/09/2017, 10:39 pm - Neccy Flossy: Look at that one (lone) fierce flee, has bitten Lulu and Malulu furiosly 27/09/2017, 10:43 pm - Neccy Flossy: 👆🏾😜😜😜😜🐒🐒👈🏾 27/09/2017, 10:45 pm - Kibisu Joash: Ululolo na olololo which is correct mr ndanyi 27/09/2017, 10:50 pm - Neccy Flossy: Ul'lolo, l'lala, l'lala, Ma'lu 27/09/2017, 10:53 pm - Mudengani Kisia: Interesting. But I thought furiously would mean vululu. 27/09/2017, 11:00 pm - Lung'afa Igunza: Maria didi.... I know that l'l is short form of rxrx, for instance, l'lara - rurara This is how my Urumundu would write, Rora orororo rurara rura urururu rurumi Ruru na maruru aharuru! - Somebody give me a medal!
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